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Friday, June 11, 2010

Lionel Messi Is a __________ Fill in Derogatory Word of Choice


Yahoo Sports - The world’s greatest soccer player started using human growth hormone at the age of just 9 years old and continued to use it systematically for more than four years.

And it was perfectly legal.

The use of HGH in a normal bodied human being acts as an anabolic steroid, but for Lionel Messi, it merely enabled to him to overcome a condition known as growth hormone deficiency and reach his natural height. The spectacularly skilled Argentinean is no giant, standing just 5-foot-6, even in his cleats. Without treatment, though, doctors believe he would have reached only 4-7 as an adult.

“Nothing allows us to overcome genetics,” Dr. Diego Schwarsztein, the endocrinologist who first treated Messi as a 9-year-old, said in a recent interview with journalist Luca Caioli. “But if difficulties arise we can help it along. Those who genuinely have growth hormone deficiency have it for life. That is why it is necessary to intervene.”

The intervention took the form of injections every night, Messi grimacing in pain as the needles were jabbed into his skin by his father Jorge. Even then, the growth in his stature was slow.

It's funny how one day you can think the world of someone, and the next you find out that the only reason they're good at soccer is because they've been taking HGH since they were nine years old. Now, this article seems to portray Messi as a tough kid overcoming an obstacle and trumping adversity. Kind of ridiculous. Here's why. It's called natural selection. Survival of the fittest. Messi was supposed to be 4 foot 7 inches as an adult. But soccer clubs paid $150,000 a year so he could grow. Height means a lot. Height means longer legs, which translates to faster speed. How is this drug use any less criminal than a baseball player using steroids? Sure a baseball player using HGH can hit the ball harder but it doesn't help with hand-eye coordination as far as I know. In Messi's case speed is everything. His agility, speed, quickness - they are all a byproduct of HGH. Lionel Messi was bred to be a star soccer player. He wasn't meant to be one. Therefore I cannot appreciate his talents or efforts. Read that Yahoo article. This is no bash on Messi either. Let me be clear. He did what he was told to do. But it is unethical to allow a soccer player the chance to grow more and not a player of another sport. I'd like to hear some counter-arguments justifying Messi's talent despite his artificial body.

19 comments:

  1. U make it seem like the only thing Messi has in the game is speed. Sure it is a major part of his game, but hes a great decision maker and also a great scorer. Now u make the point that HGH doesn't affect hand-eye coordination in baseball, but what about in soccer. You think HGH also helps with his timing on kicking the ball at the exact time and with the exact spin that is needed for him to complete a play or even score a goal? I don't see how you over look the something as easy as that when writing this. And also fraud is a strong word for someone who is as gifted as him. Sure HGH may be helping his speed, but it doesn't help the mental aspect of the game which is a very important part.

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  2. Speed in soccer is everything. It doesn't matter how amazing your footwork is if you can't keep up with anyone. If Messi was 4-7 he would not be able to make it up and down the field.

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  3. Anonymous, your point is valid that there are many aspects of the game that are unrelated to his use of HGH. He has exceptional skill and hand eye coordination. But in the same regard as JGood argued for baseball, Messi wouldn't be able to use that skill to his advantage if he was 4'7". It's like if a baseball player had the ability to make contact every time, but was 4'7" and weighed 85 lbs. He'd never make it without HGH, because he wouldn't be strong enough. JGood's belief here is that what isn't allowed in baseball shouldn't be allowed in soccer, because the advantages are very comparable.

    PS -- Fraud may not be the best word choice because he does have great skill like you said. But remember that the word "fraud" will make you read this blog. Serving the purpose of a title.

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  4. I am pretty sure HGH is going to give you an advantage... but I am also pretty sure that 90% of professional athletes have done something on the lines of HGH.

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  5. There is a reason why this article is a joke is because of the title(among many other things). You do know that words do mean certain things right? The word fraud isn't just a bad choice of word in this article, but its probably the worst word choice you could have used.

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  6. Wholeheartedly disagree. I can think of much worse word choices than fraud. How about donkey or elephant? He can certainly be considered a fraud because he injected artificial growth hormones to make him grow. I agree it's the wrong word choice but that's utterly foolish to say it's the worst. But I respect your opinion, if this blog is a joke you don't have to return to it so many times like our stats indicate your IP address has.

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  7. No, Drob, I see where Brett is coming from, he doesn't necessarily mean fraud is a bad word, he means to say that there are much better words describing Messi's manufactured ability.

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  8. Which is why I changed the title, to allow the readers to chose their own negative words describing Messi

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  9. I imagine you also believe that diabetic players who need insulin should not be allowed to play professional sports. Or how about players who need glasses? Ban them! Darwin wanted them to play chess.

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  10. Fuck you derek and matt this is ridiculous... By your logic, Jon Lester should have died of cancer, Adam Morrison should never have won national player of the year, he should have died in a diabetic coma as a young kid, and every player who goes down with a torn ACL should recieve no medical treatment (You should have been born with stonger ligaments Tom Brady!) This is absolute nonsense... The HGH just allowed him reach his full potential just like cancer treatment and surgery allow Lester and Brady to compete at their highest level... You've just fallen into the media trap of HGH being grouped with steroids so as soon as you hear HGH your immediatly up in arms about him cheating...lets say he would have lived a sickly life because of a vitiman b deficiency, i'm sure you'd have no problem giving him vitiman b, but just cuz HGH is involved you immediatly say CHEATER!... in fact i hope you have multiple sons who are born with growth hormone deficiency so when you get them treatment and you enroll them in T-Ball i can come down and say NO THESE CHILDREN WERE MANUFACTURED BY MODERN MEDICINE... To be completely honest I knew about a year ago about Messi's story and my first thought was how it is so much more spectacular that he is as good as he is... and one more hole in your argument is that he played for an argentinian club team before the treatment and Barcelona's scouts saw how good he was and offered to pay for his treatment So that means that he was un-fucking-believeable before the treatment for barca to A.) find him and B.) see that he was so good that it was worth the millions of dollars they'd have to pay for his treatments. So basically he was born with the talent, but even if he wasn't i still have no problem with giving someone something that allows them the same opportunities as everyone else

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  11. I could argue against you, but I think you are right. And in this case, I believe it is fair to allow him to compete at his highest potential. I think the bigger problem is drawing the line. I didn't write this post so I cannot speak for JGood, but I sense this is the issue he was moreso pointing toward.

    For example. We agree that Messi needed HGH to grow to 5'6" and not be stuck at 4'7". The problem is drawing that line of "need." For Jon Lester -- he would have died. For Brady -- he could never play. For Morrison -- would have died. For Messi -- you could argue he could never play. And that's why I agree. But in all sports, the problem is drawing that line. Say Nate Robinson wants to be a post player. He's 5'6". He needs to be 6'8" to play to his full potential as a post player. Again, I'm not disagreeing with you in Messi's case. But there is a gray area to be cleared up to distinguish when players actually need HGH and when they are using it to gain an advantage. For Messi, I'm with you. But IF we were talking about a little bit taller a height -- say 5 feet -- and what would have been a perfectly healthy non-athletic lifestyle.... is it right to allow them to use HGH to make them able to compete athletically? That's the bigger question for debate. If it's not allowed in some sports, what makes it alright to do in other cases -- that's the debate here.

    Let me reiterate that I agree with you Shane. I am simply saying what I believe to be the bigger issue in sports and medicine today.

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  12. Well the thing there is that Messi has a disease. He didn't take the HGH to be a star soccer player, he took it to not be midget, and becoming a world renown soccer player was just a byproduct of that.

    However, there would be something very wrong with someone like nate robinson taking HGH... he has normal growth hormone levels, he just prob just comes from a short family... I would have a HUGE problem with him taking HGH as a child simply to be taller.

    I wouldn't put a certain height on whether you can use HGH or not, i'd base it on whether its a medical problem. For example say Messi would have grown to be 5'4" while still having the growth hormone deficiency. Even though he would be a reasonable height, he would still have other problems due to his body not growing correctly like poor bone density, lack of lean body mass, poor memory, depression. Height isn't the only thing that is effected by the disease that he has.

    So if you have a growth hormone deficiency I have no problem with you taking HGH (and being and athlete), no matter what height you were going to be without it. The deciding factor should be medicine not asthetics.

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  13. Yeah. I didn't really read the whole Yahoo article, and I didn't know that other health problems would have come along with his condition. In those cases I agree that it is fine. But all of sports needs to get on the same page in the regard that HGH is alright if used to cure/treat a medical problem. For example, is it true that Andy Pettitte used to help heal from an injury? It's irrelevant, because there is just an absolute ban on it in baseball. If Messi were a baseball player, he wouldn't pass a drug test. So I think the gray areas need to be cleared up, and if they were, "HGH" wouldn't be such a feared name anymore. Because like you said about the "media trap," a lot of people think HGH and steroids are one and the same.

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  14. haha the advertisements at the top of the page right now are: Human Growth Hormone, HGH program,and Which HGH Products Work?

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  15. Hahaha thats funny... it's because the ads are supposed to be like "smart" and they take commonly used words on your page and make ads about them, thinking it will match up to readers' interests.... we have fooled Google AdSense

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  16. i knw this is a very old story..But its a subject that really irritates the hell out of me,how people could be so blind because they do not like Messi..Everything Shane was saying is right..Hgh is a NATURALLY ocurring Chemical which is produced by the pituitary gland..Messi cud not produce hormones because of his deffiency so he fairly tried to fix the problem..Growth hormone is critical for tissue repair,muscle growth,healing brain functions.physical and Mental Health,bone Strength,energy and Metabolism..It is very important in just about EVERY aspect of ones life..Now heres this poor Kid called lionel Messi who has AWSUM footballing talent and ability but yet has a disease..It wud be the most unfair thing in the world for him not to try and fix his disease so he cud have a FAIR advantage..Just like anyone else wud want to fix a problem they may have!

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  17. He sounds like a child, messi had a medical condition. Soccer requires skill leave speed aside there are plenty players who are not the fastest but are the worlds best. Soccer is played from the heart its an art your gifted with. Messi busted his ass ever since he was little for hours on the daily he probably spent all day with the ball watching film taking on any challange being crazy about it. Unlike you blogging thinking he is a cheat, this and that. Go bust your ass for 18 years and then talk about the worlds best. Your just another hater to the adversity the kid over came. If you think u can take hgh and walk on barcelonas first team and be messi then go n demonstrate. Now with that said go blog about something important to people n let the real atheletes chase their dreams and hope for greatness as you never did and god did not bless you with that drive

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  18. Just gonna throw those out there cos I want to see what people say..

    If messi's hgh deficiency its seen as a unfair disadvantage to him and is subsequently corrected to a more normal level by injections, then why is an individual that is genetically advantaged, which is a disadvantage to everybody else, not forced to correct their levels of whatever it is that gives them an advantage to a more normal level?

    For instance, if you have normal levels of hgh then it would be seen as doping if you were to take injections. But if you naturally produced the these high levels of hgh and that gave you an advantage then you would simply be seen as gifted.

    What about if there was in injection that made people of below average coordination more coordinated? If I was a player who is of below average coordination and my friend was 10 times worse, then he would be genetically unfortunate. But lucky for him his coordination is so bad that he gets injections and becomes someone of average coordination and I don't get injections, and as a result he becomes a better player than me. Is this unfair?

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